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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #803
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Sun, 17 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 803
-
- Today's Topics:
- 2M opening to Hawaii de CA.
- CALL YOUR CONGRESSPERSON!!! (was Re: FCC Delays now at 17 weeks!
- Comment 06/28/94 5:54pm
- Enough already
- Experience with R7
- FCC accepts no data entry volunteers?
- Gray Areas of 'No Commercial Use'
- How do you police hams? (3 msgs)
- Icom 737 Fan..can you hear it?
- OMNI Directional Yagi!!!
- SAREX Keps 7/17
- Selectone Encrypt
- Wanted Low Band Mitrek
-
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-
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-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 15 Jul 1994 06:37:02 -0700
- From: news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!bethel.connected.com!hebron.connected.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: 2M opening to Hawaii de CA.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- From all reports this has been a great event. There was a report of a
- mountain top QSO from above Reno NV on the VHF e-mail list. There was
- also a second hand report of one from the Or or Wa coast. Wow, wish it
- had reached the inland area of Wa
-
- 73s...Ralph
- --
- Ralph Lindberg N7BSN More hobbies than time
- Ellen Winnie N7PYK Just because I'm not doing anything
- email => dragonsl@connected.com doesn't mean I have nothing to do.
- or => dragonsl@pnw.net Members of too MANY clubs!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 03:25:20 GMT
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@ames.arpa
- Subject: CALL YOUR CONGRESSPERSON!!! (was Re: FCC Delays now at 17 weeks!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
- In article <Anthony_Pelliccio-140794103318@adis-215.adis.brown.edu>, Tony Pelliccio (Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu) writes:
- >Yes but doesn't the FCC get a cut of that $35.00 you pay?
- >
-
- No; all license fees paid to US Government agencies go into the general
- fund, and become part of the overall budget. Fees do not go directly
- to the service that collects them.
-
- 73...joe
-
-
-
- ----------
- Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
- Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 12:40:09 GMT
- From: agate!iat.holonet.net!crystal!carlton.smith@ames.arpa
- Subject: Comment 06/28/94 5:54pm
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello David,
-
- I replaced all the phone lines, as the dogs apparently chewed through
- a couple under the house...... have to put everything in PVC !
-
- Have you been doing anything with the packet switched amateur radio
- data?
-
- is Dxing still alive and well on 20 meters and other HF frequencies?
- I remember a trip I made to Dayton with a friend back in the 70s, and
- wonder if the hobby is still alive and growing......or have computers
- taken over the interests of enthuiasts ???
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 15 Jul 1994 14:49:53 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!usenet@ames.arpa
- Subject: Enough already
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In <303g7b$81o@news.iastate.edu> twp77@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
-
- > Jeff,
- > It seems to me you were the only person saying -40F=-40C meant
- > that you could cancel the -40s. Everyone else seemed to realize
- > that since you can't put a degree sign in a usenet post, it was
- > just deleted.
-
-
- Well, yes, but the "-40F = -40C" appeared in the context of a thread
- in which the "F" and "C" had earlier appeared as variable names in
- an equation...
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 Jul 1994 19:04:21 GMT
- From: portal.com!kgh@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Experience with R7
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- About the R7 blown trap problem being a "well-known" problem, I've certainly
- heard it here several times. I have an R7 that had blown traps (about which
- more anon), and in dealing with Cushcraft about it, I of course got no
- admission from the engineer that it was a known problem.
-
- I bought the R7 secondhand, but still under warranty. The symptoms in
- my case were no resonance on 20, 30, or 40 meters; all the higher
- frequency bands were OK. It is possible that the traps were either
- defective from the factory or else were blown because of mistreatment
- by the person I bought it from. He was trying to use it inside a
- mobile home laying horizontally and without the counterpoise. He was
- only using 100 Watts. The Cushcraft engineer thought that sort of
- mistreatment might blow out the matching network, and might possibly
- blow traps, but that seemed less likely. In this case, the matching
- network appeared to be OK. So, even though there was some doubt about
- whether the traps were defective from the start, Cushcraft replaced the
- 20 and 30 meter traps under warranty.
-
- I certainly cannot see how the traps can get blown, unless you use a lot of
- power and take no care whatever to tune the antenna correctly. When you
- realize how those traps are constructed, it's hard to imagine a failure
- mechanism that could occur with 100 watts.
-
- In my case, the symptom of blown traps was high SWR in the corresponding
- Ham band, and resonance far removed from any amateur band (12 Mhz, as I
- recall). Replacing the 20 and 30 meter traps fixed the problem, and I've
- had no complaints since. I think it's a very good antenna, and I think
- Cushcraft acted admirably in replacing the traps even when it wasn't
- clear that they were at fault.
-
- Kim
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 17:23:08 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!netcom.com!netcom12!faunt@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: FCC accepts no data entry volunteers?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Jul14.113640.109@drager.com> landisj@drager.com (Joe Landis - System & Network Mgr) writes:
-
- In article <3010g1$94s@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) writes:
- > Apparently, there's a clause in somebody's law book that prohibits the
- > FCC from accepting volunteer help in doing data entry. Apparently the
- > Gettysburg people would love the help, but CAN'T accept it. Looks like
- > well, I don't know what it looks like...
- Probably union rules.
- > Purdy ridiculous, eh?
- Yes they are.
- Or privacy or conflict of interest. And I suspect it would take the
- same kind of reorganization to accept volunteers for data-entry that
- it did to set up the VEC program. It's just a shame they can't accept
- ear-marked donations in order to hire a temp.
- Maybe the route is to see if hams, through the VEC's, could fund a
- temp at the office.
- 73, doug
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 03:20:05 GMT
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@ames.arpa
- Subject: Gray Areas of 'No Commercial Use'
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
- In article <199407140433.AAA06611@max.tiac.net>, Chris Patti { Feoh } (chrisp@max.tiac.net) writes:
- >But then I was thinking, would, for instance, using such a connection to work
- >on some shell scripts I was writing for my job be considered 'Commercial Use'
- >?
-
- Yes, it would -- Part 97 still forbids traffic that financially
- benefits you or your employer, and this certainly qualifies.
-
- >
- >What if I told my PC to dial up my Internet access provider and checked my
- >mail? I've paid them for a service, so is my dialing up their terminal server
- >and logging in a commercial transaction?
- >
-
- May not be commercial under the current rules, but could be a violation
- of the third-party traffic rules.
-
- 73...joe
-
-
-
- ----------
- Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
- Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 Jul 94 14:20:58 -0500
- From: ulowell!ulowell!woods.uml.edu!martinja@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: How do you police hams?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article Scott Hopson (shopson@netcom.com) wrote:
-
- > : How does the service police itself?
-
- > : I recently tuned into a local repeater to hear an exchange of continued
- > : profanity, attempts to jam signals, music being played over conversations,
- > : 28 WPM code practice, and more by a young kid, some drunk adults, and
- > : one pot smoking stoner. This all occurred within a 1/2 hour period. The
- > : offenders even gave their call signs. How do you get these people to
- > : cease, who has legal authority to enforce laws pertaining to these
- > : things?
-
- Please allow me to add my $.02 here. There are many who will disagree with
- about anything that anyone posts anywhere just for the sake of disagreement and
- it is not to those that this post is written...
-
- Firstly, we probably need to get it out of our heads that any type of
- enforcement must occur on the spur of the moment where ham radio is concerned.
- Yeah, there are those who will jump right in and yell at the offender only to
- begin a shouting match with the "enforcer" becoming enraged and engaging in the
- same activities the offender is being accused of. It don't work this way!
- [Grammar error intentional] &-D
-
- To the untrained there is no need to try to act as some type of mediator or
- enforcement agency unless the parties committing the violations are well known
- by this person. And then, this person's actions should not take place on the
- air. If the violators are unknown, probably the best thing to do would be to
- contact an Official Observer (OO) or someone from the Amateur Auxiliary.
-
- Although neither of these groups has enforcement authority, they DO have
- enforcement credibility. This means that the FCC will listen to their
- complaints/reports [the decision to contact the FCC Field Operations Bureau
- would never be made by an OO to begin with and only extreme cases would be
- brought to the attention of the FCC under the guidance of FCC personnel in
- strict accordance with the established referral policy of the Amateur
- Auxiliary] before even beginning to consider a report from Joe HamRadio
- Operator off the street. Many times Joe HamRadioOperator off the street calls
- the FCC just because it makes him feel important and because he and the
- perpetrator have had an argument and this is Joe's way of getting even. I'm
- sure this is one of the main reasons the Amateur Auxiliary was founded.
-
- Being involved with a "self-policing" activity, as we are, does not mean that
- we have to become a SWAT team and pounce on someone the moment they commit an
- infraction. Part of the "Basis and Purpose" of amateur radio (Para 97.1(d)
- states: "Expansion of the existing reservoir within the amateur radio service
- of trained operators, technicians, and electronic experts." To me this
- includes the idea that only trained operators should become involved in any
- "enforcement" process. If you want to become involved and to become an
- Official Observer or a member of the Amateur Auxiliary, talk to your ARRL
- section manager. That's a good start. Those who absolutely abhor the ARRL
- and anything involving the ARRL and who think they can take matters into their
- own hands....only become a part of the problem.
-
- Bottom line: If you are not or have not been trained as an Official Observer
- or as a member of the Amateur Auxiliary I would recommend that your
- involvement only be that of contacting and reporting the problems to those who
- are trained, and let them handle it. Let them be the ones to contact the FCC
- in any event, as they wouldn't take that action unless it was absolutely
- necessary.
-
- Oh, I do not currently belong to the League but I do support many of their
- activities.
-
- 73 de WK1V
- -jim-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 16:28:13 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!netcom.com!shopson@ames.arpa
- Subject: How do you police hams?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- How does the service police itself?
-
- I recently tuned into a local repeater to hear an exchange of continued
- profanity, attempts to jam signals, music being played over conversations,
- 28 WPM code practice, and more by a young kid, some drunk adults, and
- one pot smoking stoner. This all occurred within a 1/2 hour period. The
- offenders even gave their call signs. How do you get these people to
- cease, who has legal authority to enforce laws pertaining to these
- things?
-
- --
- o_/
- _/|
- ___/_\__
- '
- Cowabunga, dude......
- shopson@netcom.com
- Scott Hopson
- Costa Mesa, Ca.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 16:33:14 GMT
- From: pacbell.com!amdahl!netcomsv!netcom.com!dgf@ames.arpa
- Subject: How do you police hams?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <shopsonCszpr2.6Bt@netcom.com> shopson@netcom.com (Scott Hopson) writes:
- >I recently tuned into a local repeater to hear an exchange of continued
-
- Let me guess: 147.435?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 03:21:46 GMT
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@ames.arpa
- Subject: Icom 737 Fan..can you hear it?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
- In article <199407140149.SAA03302@ucsd.edu>, Ken Carr IQC109@URIACC.URI.EDU (IQC109@uriacc.uri.edu) writes:
- >I have had an Icom 737 HF transceiver for several months and am very
- >satisfied (except for the strange layout of the numerical keypad). I do have
- >one question. Does the fan ever go on? I have never heard it. I usually
- >transmit no more than 1 minute at a time (although I have gone as long as
- >two minutes). The unit is supposed to have a 100% duty cycle. I have never
- >heard it during phone or CW modes. I'd appreciate any comments from Icom
- >owners...is this normal operation for this unit? Thanks...
-
- Yes it is; I've only heard the fan on my 737 go on when I'm running a
- digital mode (RTTY/Amtor/Pactor). Those modes, especially Amtor and
- Pactor, key the transmitter a lot more, and the fan will kick in about
- 10-15 minutes into a QSO.
-
- 73...joe
-
-
-
- ----------
- Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
- Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 15 Jul 1994 16:19:48 GMT
- From: lll-winken.llnl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu!ham@ames.arpa
- Subject: OMNI Directional Yagi!!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- OK, this idea has been going around in my head for quite some time, so
- here it goes...
-
- Take a standard beam Yagi, or an electrically steered phased array.
-
- The rotate either the beam or the array (your choice, will call "antenna"
- from now on) REALLY REALLY fast - so much so that the receiving end
- can't even tell the antenna's spinning.
-
- Just think! High gain IN ALL DIRECTIONS!
-
- I know it's flawed, because of that time-averaged thing, but imagine
- a receiver that could do a really good interpolation job, or even just
- a smoothing circuit...
-
- And without it, you'd need to be rotating the antenna (such that you
- get samples of the carrier) at roughly 2.2 times the carrier freq.
- So for 2 meters, that's about 300 million revs per sec. OK, OK, for a
- physical antenna that would be hard to do. But a phased array? Y not?
-
- Scott NF3I
-
-
- --
- 73, _________ _________ The
- \ / Long Original
- Scott Rosenfeld Amateur Radio NF3I Burtonsville, MD | Live $5.00
- WAC-CW/SSB WAS DXCC - 130 QSLed on dipoles __________| Dipoles! Antenna!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 17 Jul 94 13:53:36 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: SAREX Keps 7/17
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB SAREX @ AMSAT $STS-65.017
- SAREX Keps 7/17 at 13:50 UTC
-
- Greenbelt, MD 7/17 at 13:50 UTC
-
- At this time, the official SAREX Orbital element set for the STS-65 Space
- Shuttle mission is set GSFC-027a with the NORAD drag values corrected by
- Gil Carman, WA5NOM. This set was generated by Ron Parise, WA4SIR at the
- Goddard Space Flight Center. On orbit 140, predictions with this set were
- 2 seconds later than GSFC-025a and one second earlier than GSFC-023a.
- Predictions with set GSFC-021 are now 33 seconds too late because
- it had the Norad drag values.
-
-
- STS-65
- 1 23173U 94039A 94197.96572968 0.00069638 00000-0 20662-3 0 276
- 2 23173 28.4666 305.8755 0003512 39.1990 320.8876 15.90919045 1339
-
- Satellite: STS-65
- Catalog number: 23173
- Epoch time: 94197.96572968 (16 JUL 94 23:10:39.05 UTC)
- Element set: GSFC-027a
- Inclination: 28.4666 deg
- RA of node: 305.8755 deg Space Shuttle Flight STS-65
- Eccentricity: 0.0003512 Keplerian Elements
- Arg of perigee: 39.1990 deg
- Mean anomaly: 320.8876 deg
- Mean motion: 15.90919045 rev/day Semi-major Axis: 6677.8421 Km
- Decay rate: 6.9638E-04 rev/day*2 Apogee Alt: 301.80 Km
- Epoch rev: 133 Perigee Alt: 297.11 Km
-
- NOTE - This element set is based on NORAD element set # 027.
- The spacecraft has been propagated to the next ascending
- node, and the orbit number has been adjusted to bring it
- into agreement with the NASA numbering convention.
-
- Submitted by Frank H. Bauer, KA3HDO for the SAREX Working Group
-
- /EX
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 14:59:36 GMT
- From: olivea!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!netcom.com!jevans@ames.arpa
- Subject: Selectone Encrypt
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm looking at a commercial radio installation and hope this is a
- reasonable place to ask the question. (If there is a better spot I'm
- _sure_ I'll hear about it)
-
- This installation will require encrypting, and I want to hear any experience
- you have with the Selectone ST25-AGP installed in the Motorola 300
- radios.
-
- Thanks in advance
-
- --
- ========================================================
- Jeff Evans jevans@netcom.com
- Audio Intervisual Design phone 213-845-1155
- Los Angeles, CA fax -1170
- ========================================================
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 15:51:21 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!newshub.nosc.mil!news@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Wanted Low Band Mitrek
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm looking for a couple of low band Mitreks for use on a packet link on 6 mtrs.
- If you have one or two that you would be willing to sell or know where I might
- find these radios, your help would be appreciated. 73
-
- Rick Craig, N6ND
- craigr@marlin.nosc.mil
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 17:46:00 GMT
- From: cnn.nas.nasa.gov!wilbur.nas.nasa.gov!eugene@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <wb9omc.773515194@constellation.ecn.purdue.edu>, <CsJLy8.25z@cnn.nas.nasa.gov>, <070794210011Rnf0.79b4@ham.island.net>│¼
- Subject : Re: Radios for Emergency Use
-
- I have been asked by a rec.radio.* newbie (this person apparently does
- not know how to use Killfiles) that some of the rec.radio readers don't want
- to read about hiking in their group (he doesn't understand cross-posting as
- well). So adjust Followups as needed. I'll drop one group.
-
- >eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
- 1>>The fact is that some organizations who lead trips forbid
- 1>>the use of some of this technology. (Period.)
-
- 2>>The problem of "false sense of security" is another area not addressed
- 2>>by Hal's text; this has been known for decades as the bodies of
- 2>>9 Russian women who had a radio can attest
- 2>>with their last words: "We die now." So a radio is not a panacea.
-
- 3>>Leaving the text as it is represents a tacit assumption that this is
- 3>>generally condoned in the woods: and in large part, it is not.
-
- >>The question is how to achieve the right sense of balance which Hal's text
- >>lacks. In case the reader (more radio oriented) thinks this is a joke,
- >>I refer to the article in Backpacker "Galen Rowell
- >>Almost Killed Me" and Rowell's side bar response. I doubt
- >>Hal would like a similar "Hal (or me or any rec.radio poster name)
- >>Almost Killed Me" net.post. It's not clear to me that consensus is what
- >>you want. You want expertise.
-
- In article <070794210011Rnf0.79b4@ham.island.net> emd@ham.island.net writes:
- >I'm not quite sure how to take this post. In what way would carrying a
- >radio while hiking not be "condoned", and by whom? And why would anyone
- >pay attention to such a kook?
-
- Whom: was addressed in another post: portions of certain solitude-seeking
- outdoor organizations. I wouldn't describe them as kooks as they have
- valid opinions (I might not agree with everything, nor should one assume
- a consistency like oneself: like using radios on bigger mountains).
-
- Rest of specific advice (duplicating Hal's post) edited down:
-
- >Assuming that you're serious (I've never seen the magazine you mention),
-
- Only half. You probably won't look the magazine up. The article is real.
- I never joke about people dying however.
-
- >and that what you want is emergency communications, I suggest you use a
- >portable cellular telephone -
- ....
- >I would not suggest portable CB radios
- ....
- >If you're a ham, you probably already have a portable VHF or UHF radio,
- ....
- >If you're not a ham already, you need to study the regulations, etc, as
- ....
- Again, very Hal post like.
-
- --eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
- Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
- {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
- My 2nd favorite use of a flame thrower is the remake of "The Thing."
- A Ref: Uncommon Sense, Alan Cromer, Oxford Univ. Press, 1993.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 12:50:14 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!greg@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <385@doghouse.win.net>, <gregCsvu05.7K0@netcom.com>, <394@doghouse.win.net>
- Subject : Re: IARU Contest
-
- In article <394@doghouse.win.net> jsalemi@doghouse.win.net (Joe Salemi) writes:
- >
- >Where are you located? Early indications from scores on posted on the
- >local packet cluster seemed to indicate that the propagation to some
- >areas was much better than others. Around here, it looked like
- >Pennsylvania to the North was hopping, while the D.C. Metro area was a
- >black hole as far as most signals were concerned...
-
- I'm in central NJ, near Morristown, only about 60 miles out of PA.
-
- Yes, from my experience, I do seem to be in a rather hot location,
- where DX can be worked consistently with low power, bad antennas,
- in a valley. Go figure.
-
- With the way everything above 15Mhz sounds lately, I wouldn't be
- surprised if ducting effects are finding their way as low as
- 20. :-(
-
- Greg
-
- ------------------------------
-
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